going beyond scripture

In Matthew 18:15-18, It carefully lays out a process of correcting fellow Christians that have sinned. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. Thats very wise, and I respect that. Parables arent the same thing as eisegesis (or Jesus would have been handling Scripture improperly, Himself), and its easy to see this by reading through (in context) several of Jesus parables. My heart longs for you to grow in the grace and knowledge of Christ by learning the truth of His word. Some of the points you bring up give me pause. You could choose to simply pick up your Bible and study it. 5. I'll start.I'll share with you 2 Scriptures that have given me soooo much comfort and encouragement these past few days and then I'll anxiously wait for you to share what Scripture(s) you have been meditating on lately, received a ton of comfort and encouragement from and/or used to encourage someone else. ), The Treasure You Already Are | Priscilla Shirer | [at Joyce Meyers] Love Life Womens Conference 2013, Priscilla Shirer Talks Women and the Church, Moving From the Pew to the Pavement and Why Christine Caine Is at the Top of Her List at the Christian Post, Priscilla Shirer recommends Joyce Meyer, Ann Voskamp, Beth Moore, Jen Hatmaker, Jennie Allen, etc., Bible studies on her blog at Going Beyond, Priscilla Shirer speaks at Joyce Meyers womens conference alongside false teachers Joyce Meyer, Lisa Harper, and Sarah Jakes Roberts (T.D. 2. Job 36:26 Verse Concepts I am curious about this comment, I realize this post is old so I dont know if it will be read however, based on the above article and your statements in your article referenced at the top this man who is talking about reading from your blog and learning from you is sinning by being under your teaching. Jonah 2:10. Accused is a very loaded, and in this case, inaccurate term. Watch videos of Shirer speaking, listen to her sermons, read her books, and compare them all with what Scripture says. Good News Translation For your sake, my friends, I have applied all this to Apollos and me, using the two of us as an example, so that you may learn what the saying means, "Observe the proper rules." Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. In Japan there was a man in the imperial orchestra couldnt play a note. It is Gods plan for every Christianto grow to spiritual maturity and intimacy with Him. 3And I will make thee swear by I read myself into scripture, too! Part 11 - Matthew 9:32-38 - THAT'S WHEN MIRACLES HAPPEN! For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive. #2 I wasnt aware that Joyce Meyer, Christine Caine and the Osteens were false teachers! These are just a few of the dozens of examples available on YouTube and elsewhere of Priscilla Shirer preaching to men. They point you to your own experiences and opinions, not to Scripture, as your authority for what you think, believe, and do. Certainly. 2 Timothy 4:5 Verse Concepts We treat God's written word with reverence, accepting it as complete and adequate, and refuse to alter it in any way (II Timothy 3:16,17). I dont know half of your theological terminology, but I do know that I love Jesus and Im going to heaven, so Im just fine with that. But go and learn what this means: 'I desire mercy, not . Based on Saikowoods earlier post, you are not even familiar with the fact that Dr. Tony Evans is her father. 1 Samuel 30:6-8, Denomination: Go beyond our fears. What is a defining moment? This article really turned me off on her. Defining Moment; Joshua 24 Preached at Midway Community Church June 11, 2000; Hey brother Saiko Woods! Sometimes the Bible can be difficult because it steps on our toes, but I promise, I will always point you Scripture, not to stories, fluff, false doctrine, or your own opinions, feelings, and experiences. Furthermore (since Priscilla looks to tangible experiences and anecdotal evidence as support for her ideas), both anecdotal church history and the experiences of Christians who are alive today prove this idea to be false. Scripture doesnt specify that only preaching from a pulpit on Sunday morning as a pastor would or leading a church qualifies as preaching to or teaching men, but, yes, they have both done the former and neither has indicated repentance over it or any plans to stop doing so. And the Bible says that women are not to preach to or instruct men, or to hold authority over men in the gathered body of Believers, the church. Disclaimer: The specific links below are provided and endorsed as evidence pertaining to this article only. We do not build doctrine or what we believe about God on peoples subjective experiences. Scripture: INTRODUCTION: He wants you to learn good theology and sound doctrine. It states our purpose to do only those things which are authorized by the Scripture. We are officially in the middle or a Pandemic called COVID19. I couldnt find these terms in my Bible! Kay Arthur, Beth Moore, and Priscilla Shirer Believe In Teaching Men Tooat Surphs Side. Going Beyond Obedience. GOING BEYOND THE DUTY CALL AND WHAT IS EXPECTED! Armor of God Workbook with Video Access They teach a false hope that will eventually let you down and disappoint you. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. I thought parables were a kind of means to read yourself into scripture? Are they preaching from a church pulpit on a Sunday morning as a pastor would? God doesnt limit to a select few the number of Christians who are able to grow in the grace and knowledge of the Lord Jesus the way He limited entrance to the Promised Land. This is not a new idea. http://lisaharper.net/calendarevents/. She sounds really nice and charismatic and thats about it but my spirit doesnt bear witness with her. How does God regard false teachers, and how are we to deal with them in our personal lives and families, and as the church? My previous comment with the links was in answer to questions that you asked. Well since thats the case, why dont you study and agree with what the Bible says? (Also, lets please try to keep things friendly and polite, OK?). There is no dearth of advice for us believers about how to deal with this situation. As a womens leader at your church are you not often asked questions to clarify your personal views? 7 Steps to Figuring it Out on Your Own helpful in understanding biblically whether or not someone is a false teacher. Tonight at church he came up and thanked me for sharing and said he hated that these studies got past him. 52-week preaching calendar to help you plan your sermons, Customizable sermon manuscripts for verse-by-verse preaching, Preach with creativity and impact throughout the year, [NEW YEAR] 4-Week Series to kick off 2023, [PRODUCTIVITY] Fulfill your full potential, [FOUNDATIONS] Getting back to what matters most. Id like to ask, was Kenneth Hagin also a false preacher, because he dealt extensively with this issue of women preaching in his book, and made several clarifications in his book The Women Question. Its a complete waste of time. I really dont want to study scripture with/ from someone who is knowingly sinning by leading His lambs astray. It is as old as the Scriptures themselves. Do you have other references to their false teaching? Its this link: http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=18085. And, sometimes, basic is enough. If a pastor (or husband- Beth has also said she is acting under her husbands mantle of authority) tries to give her that authority, he is putting himself in the place of God who has prohibited it and he is sinning, too. I have attempted plenty of times to contact people like Priscilla Shirer. read more, Scripture: 5:7 ). I didnt know I was reading and studying scripture wrong. 3. Often God reveals more through discussions and scripture references. I attended a conference with Beth Moore, whom I know you have accused also of teaching and preaching to men, and before she began she said that she was there under the guidance of her pastor and that if men were present, they should understand that her teachings were meant for women. Yes, there are many more examples of Priscillas poor handling of Scripture in the Additional Resources section. Are they preaching from a church pulpit on a Sunday morning as a pastor would? (I dont think she was building doctrine in this promotional video, but I could be wrong.). It is about sin in the local congregation where you actually know the person personally and have access to him/her. Lots of information about those online and at http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com and Berean Research. If you are also then do we not have the same Holy Spirit to counsel and teach us? Could you point to me where Priscilla suggests that we empty our mind? If our feelings, opinions, or experiences contradict Gods word, then those feelings, experiences, and opinions are wrong and we need to repent and believe Gods word instead. 13 Bible Verses about God's Ways Beyond Human Understanding Most Relevant Verses Isaiah 55:8-9 "For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways," declares the Lord. So we both have been grateful ever sense, me personally because; as her husband she is my most important ministry, so besides Church, we do studies both together and private, and then share them with one another, we also pray together and so on, but i know (because i have learned, and it is also true of men) sometimes women need women.(Titus.2:3-4). And yet you thank him as opposed to rebuking him. Do you have any other examples? But, yes, sometimes I do offer to send someone Im talking to (face to face) links to my articles, other peoples articles, books, sermons, etc., if theyd like to study an issue more. God has not instructed women to preach to or instruct men. 2 John 1:1-11. I run into you everywhere man YouTube, Twitter, and now here lol. Well, technically, this article would fall under the category of discernment, but yes, I guess you could say Im into apologetics as all Christians are called to be :0). -Opened new Not from Scripture. Stay the Path (book) Promo Priscilla endorses Bobbie Houstons book. No mention of sitting in silence or listening here nor in any of the other passages in which the Bible teaches about prayer. How I wish I could ask him what he thinks of his heathen saving methods now that he has seen the face of Jesus!). It does NOT say, and be baptist. Thank you MIchelle Lesley. 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