She had never received the invitations (thanks, post office! Copyright 2011 thru 2023 Jennifer Peepas, all rights reserved. That goes for online engagements too. Otherwise, leave your card with Jeeves, and Ill return your call at my earliest convenience. You BETTER be there because Im already on my way AND I washed my hair for you. Some people get really ticked off about the idea that I can CHOOSE whether to answer my door/phone/text/email, and that just not wanting to interact at that moment is a good enough reason not to answer.. I shame clean when someone unexpectedly needs to be in my apartment (my super doesnt need to see my floor underwear), sure, and I would be annoyed with the LW for a sudden drop by in part for that reason, but when I know company is coming in advance Ienjoy the clean? If youre her friend and she likes you, she actively enjoys unexpected knocks on the door and quick visits that end up taking the entire afternoon. Then I realize theyre not going to punish me, they really were just asking, and its no big deal going forward. Your script(s) are: That sounds nice/Are you looking forward to it/Where is it/I hope there are no diaper cakes., Person#2: Ive got to clean the house, were having people over on Sunday., Red light means stop. In another occasion, K told me we should hang out at my other friend, N's, house, without even asking N permission to be there. Its definitely been the type of thing where they expect four people to join them for their birthday dinner and BAM, Clueless Cousin is there already. I am NOT going to be guilted into inviting all and sundry thanks to GSF. How Should I Handle My Man Forgetting My Best Man Poem Ideas for a Brother's Wedding. Yeah. My mom, my sister and I had come to town planned ahead of time to arrive at their house and have dinner. Christine Jones is an editor who likes to write about modern dating trends and dating tips. c. Dirty Dishes. But I did start noodling around on Twitter more recently, and all of a sudden I started getting more invites from my friends who use Twitter as much as I do. for interacting with friends; call it a friend-state. There are a lot of things to talk about in this world. I am just offering another perspective on the need for advance notice before a visit because the LW was having trouble understanding why thats a thing people would want. the trick is that i can never tell when its going to be one way or the other. Its much harder to say no gently if you just want a quiet afternoon alone and someone is a block from your house wanting to come over and they can see your car in the driveway. I dont mind drop-ins, if its just a rare opportunity thing like they were down the street running an errand. If Im waiting a while, Ill text you and let you know Im here. #711: Is it rude or wrong to invite myself to someones house? Just, unlock the door and walk right on in. But it is very difficult to answer my son who keeps asking if he can have a playdate with T. Telling him that we have asked him twice, and now we have to wait for him to say something before we can ask again, just results in but I really, really want to play with T. Offers of inviting someone else over get, Can we ask T instead? I can keep redirecting that question, and even give a really specific no, because, but I really would like to invite T over, either to our house or to a neutral area like a local park. Others covered a lot of this for me already, but the short answer is that at 7 and with autism, my son is really, really not ready to be placed in charge of inviting his friend over. again, we dont all have to be friends. Answer door, but open it only a crack. I felt like this was sort of a default thing that everyone did until I met a friend of a friend and we became semi-close. My SIL is the queen of this, but its also happened more than once with the parents of some of my kids friends. Guys don't usually invite girl (friends) to hang out alone just to "hang out". I never thought to put it this way but its perfect: THE LAUGHING GIRL MYSTERY. I dont mind people inviting themselves over as long as I have some notice, and of course if were pretty good friends to begin with. But you might have luck with at least some friends. When they said, You shouldve come! about some past event, I would say (cheerfully! The soft invite is way too easy to brush off, especially with the level of over-scheduling that exists at certain socio-economic levels. The society believes that 'male borns' are not often clean. Oh, great! Back in my teens if I was too anxious/busy/unpresentable to talk to an unannounced house caller I would either not answer the door or ask my parents to say I was out. I have a Facebook account with a lot of people friended but rarely log in, so I miss things from time to time because people assume that, if youre on their friends list, you will see their posts. If someone is going to visit my home, I need enough notice to get myself and the main areas of the house decent before they turn up. And, in fact, I will go out of my way NOT to do things she does not use her words to ask me to do before assigning chores or duties to me. I actually thought about the nude Brazilian implications but I couldnt figure out a way to phrase it that didnt include them. Ha, intercultural differences around this kind of thing are a trip. My friends and I are roleplayers though, and typically a tabletop game will only be able to have 4-5 players in it, so its pretty obvious not everybody could do it, and most people really like hearing about others games (to an extent, nobody wants a 4 hour rundown of mass combat) so its sort of accepted that people will mention games they are in that others arent and people are usually fine with it. But my shame level is much much higher and so I never have people over without a sometimes-tearful marathon clean that leaves me too exhausted to enjoy it. And then Shut. I have a Master of Social Work (MSW) degree, and a B.A. I dont have kids and its been a while since I was that young, so I dont want to speculate too much. Me: (Feeling the freedom to say I cant, or to say Im tired, or to say that sounds good but maybe a different day) Thanks for thinking of me! If I overheard that Id think that A is surely going to Bs house later that day. Figure out do guys like being called cute. I already add a fair number of caveats to my speech, my precise meaning often misunderstood. If you want me there, PLEASE invite me directly so I dont have to worry about my mothers disapproval! [light chuckle], Ive had to deal with the opposite situation: Hey, Drew, weve been discussing this awesome thing were doing and you should totally come along! Me, inside: I would rather floss my teeth with copper wire. Me, outside: Oh, I hope you guys have a great time; I just cant.. You should come by the house later!. Call or ask the guy in person. The answer is, "It depends". Id rather get a text than have them come down the steep staircase to get me, or have to keep running up those stairs to see if theyve arrived. If it turns into a huge social thing it tends to be bad. I was reading that and thinking, wait, whys that shame-cleaning? Its what I try to do, thats when the comments about being silly comes in. INDEED. My parents chewed me out in the car when they came to get me for inviting myself over to someones home (which I was already in and had been asked if I wanted to stay). If you were invited, youd already be invited. Another thing you can do is call him up and say that the friends went to another party and that you have to wait for them since you do not have a ride home. He worked from home-so he thought it disrespectful to not treat his home like any other office. That is what constitutes the perfect level of family closeness in her mind, so that is how it has to be: Family is always happy to see you any time of day or night (no matter how much of a nightmare you are). Dont do anything dramatic, or say Guess you must not have REALLY wanted to go [hang] out sometime or otherwise press the person for reasons or reactions. Le sigh. My current circle has enough meetups coordinated through non-Facebook means that I dont mind missing the occasional Facebook-only one, but when I lived in a different city with a different social circle I actually picked one person I was closer to and asked her to be my Facebook mole If you see a whole-group invitation go out via Facebook, could you email me about it? If put on the spot they may feel too uncomfortable saying no. Most times its a yeah or no but well be home in an hour, go on and let yourself in. Faerierebecca, that is an excellent idea! Then, and this is the important part, drop way WAY back in your efforts to get together with her. It shocked me when it happened I am an open-minded person! Ill say something like I didnt know I was invited because nobody actually told me I was, and Id think it would be rude of me to just show up And theyll shrug and go, well, of course you were invited! I dont tend to have long Facebook/text/IM chats with people, I use those things mostly to send direct invitations when Im making plans. My SOs (large, close knit) family is terrible for this, especially since my SO is building a house right now and we have an adorable newborn baby. Are usually dealing with various mental issues that prevent them from taking care of household necessities, and they dont deserve to be shamed for that just because you happen to like drop-ins. Although she gets annoyed if people she doesnt like as much assume the same invitation applies to them, or if people turn up late in the evening, or if people turn up when they knew she had plans to specifically do something like having to leaving the house to go to a party at 8pm, and a friend turns up at 7pm when shes in the middle of doing her hair and getting ready. At the time neither of us had discovered Captain Awkward or had the chance to develop any kind of decent social skills for kicking out people like that, so it was multiple hours of awkwardness while we both silently seethed and wished he would leave so we could go the gaming, fooding and sexing we had been hoping to spend the evening doing. I've been writing about social skills for fifteen years. Offer To Fix Him A Meal My house is not actually that much messier than some of my friends who dont mind saying shove over the laundry basket and nudge the books out of your way, welcome to my home. (closes door, puts in earplugs to block out resulting temper tantrum, goes back to bed) Seconded. Someone showing up at work means I suddenly have to juggle multiple of those states at the same time, and it is socially tiring. Or just the opposite could happen, and it may be a bad move to invite yourself to an outing where that kind of thing is commonly okay. Sometimes people will ask me this less than two hours after the original making of the plan. I also know that not everyone enjoys the kind of cleaning/hosting prep I described and its obviously not required (that would be insane). Seems like she might be ahead of the curve then, haha. If the event involves just your one friend, and a handful of their friends you don't really know. Youve tried every trick in the book but it still has not worked. It's my birthday and I hope you won't be left out. Anyway, like the Captain was saying, not all strategies work all the time, but consistent application of methods can get you places. Ive had a not awesome day so maybe Im just being a kvetch, but I do not think all in-advance-of-company-cleaning has to be shame cleaning. Get a chain and a deadbolt if you dont have one. Maybe her social expectations are different to mine or what I grew up with. If youre not my bestie, I dont think you have a right to an explanation for why I invited you to Event A but not Event Very Like Event A. A simple text letting him know you're looking forward to hanging out is sufficient. I would have a lot less anxiety about visitors if I could trust people to listen to what Im asking them to do in my home, whether thats taking shoes off by the door or sitting the fuck down when asked to. I recognize that this is more my problem than theirs, but I like my budget! I am generally the organiser of things in my social life and I normally follow the ask twice guideline that the Captain mentions with the occasional rinse and repeat in a month or two if I hear nothing and still want to see that person. Pretty sure it didnt slip their mind. If shes been increasingly distant, maybe theres something else going on. I grew up thinking Im socially odd and terrible at body language, but it turns out Im just odd. In this case, it is best to create a situation he cant say no in. *and also fishies* I dont really see the problem there, you were invited, you didnt want to go so you declined. Even with friends who I am 100% sure would welcome me showing up unexpectedly, its still a nice thing to do! It should never sound like you're begging to come over to his place. I *definitely* wouldnt invite myself to someones house in that situation (even if in years past it seemed like I was welcome to do so). In that happy, low key tone, you could say something like: A broader issue in whether inviting yourself is okay is how much will people like your company once you're there? She has been known to call AND SHOW UP IN PERSON WITHOUT AN APPOINTMENT at my workplace, even. Id MUCH rather have a conversation like: THEM: We missed you at [that Thing], why didnt you come? He will get the point. Members of my family have actually used my disorganization as the butt of jokes (probably out of the misguided belief that they can embarrass me into becoming a neat freak), and then they wonder why I refuse to let them into my home. Unfortunately, during the same era, houseguests could stay for months and you couldnt ask them to leave. You don't need a whole lot of luggage, and it might be a little scary if he sees you lugging in an entire makeup counter. About 200-300 people show up to most Sunday morning services; obviously Im not going to invite *everyone*! They wonder if they should take charge and ask if they can come along, but they're also worried that everyone doesn't actually want them there. If it isn't, call him rather than send a text to invite him over. For me there actually felt less pressure to accept these impromptu invitations than there sometimes is with people pre-arranging by phone. Im not sure if its germane to this issue, but I considered her until about a year ago my best friend. I cringe looking back on friendships where I was getting soft nos for literally months and cheerfully failing to put them into context (Hmm, maybe this person who is always busy and never calls me back doesnt want to see me! What does the Bible say about a grandparent's role, and how can grandparents be a blessing to homeschoo Firstly, if he laughs and giggles about these situations, that means that he is interested in talking to you and enjoys your time. She made it to the wedding, informed me the night before she was supposed to arrive at my house that she would be staying with someone else, and left the wedding early. Whether youre in your 20s or 50s, you still dont want to come on too desperate or too strong at the same time. Itsnot good, despite his many other qualities, and so far the rest of us in this particular social circle have mainly tried to just preemptively account for it in our planning and roll our eyes at each other behind his back. HOWEVER. Dont just show up. (Also, whats with assuming that people will be at home? I briefly tried to date this guy who would tell me his plans for the day that was half the time an invitation and half the time not. Ugh, why cant people do exactly what I want them to?? When they write about the work situation they say that they ask first if its ok. +1 to this. Different strokes and all.). Ive been the house that friends can show up to at any time. Im also somewhat cluttered in my personal space but keep most of the house relatively tidy, though thats partly because I live with someone else so theyre public spaces anyway. I like to be left blessedly alone without the shoulders-up-around-my-ears anticipation that I am about to get invaded or called ten times in a row about bullshit, which is a feeling I have pretty much all the time when not at work or when it is not between midnight and five AM, the time when my mother might be unconscious for a few blessed hours, because all other times of the day are possible nMom intrusion times, either in person or by phone (and, if I dont answer the phone, she will definitely show up in person). But I also grew up with the unstated understanding that if you bump into your neighbors mowing the lawn or want to drop off a book and chat, you didnt hang around forever and expect them to re-schedule the afternoon. We laughed and cried together. If someone hosts a party, Im tired, is a pretty universal sign to wrap things up. It was a slight point of contention, because she had to put in unavailability requests (and had her rosters) two months ahead, whereas Im lucky to have my roster a week in advance. It was a wide social group that had a mailing list where events were announced, generally one or two a week, and there were pretty established protocols for the types of event (drinkies = earlier, no dancing, quiet enough to talk and socialise; parties = later, music, dancing, acceptable to get drunker; anything else all details laid out specifically). Same here. As long as you can do the activity at your house, you're good to go! understanding what the other person wants you to do or say about it Do not do this, I will not answer the door. Im still trying to find the adult language to be, like, NO, your roommate-with-whom-I-am-only-casually-acquainted is NOT automatically also invited when you come visit and stay in my apartment in my new city, h-how, why, why would you think that would be the case? butmore kindly. I want to come to stuff, but I dont log in that often so I miss a lot of posts.. At what point is it OK to ask T over for another playdate? When I was young it was normal to go knock on someones door, but you always either invited them outside to play or over to your house, you never invited yourself in. Im getting married in a little over 4 weeks (OMG OMG 4 WEEKS PANIC!!!) I wish you all the best in working this through with your counsellor. A lot of people were raised in families where avoidance of awkward situations is the only model they know, so they just dont have the communication tools to do anything else. But since the LW was asking about why a person might be upset about an unexpected visit I wanted to throw in the fact that there are many reasons a host might not want a drop-in visit, not just the need to shame clean, which I think is well represented by many of the comments above me. Here are some additional thoughts: Dont worry why things seem different stopping by work and home. *grrr* still stinging from getting stood up repeatedly by two separate people (for different events) last fall. I just didnt realize that when someone starts coming down on you hard for doing something as innocuous as dropping by at the wrong time, the problem isnt with the etiquette rule; its with the relationship.. Id never get out of my car and go up to someones door when I havent been specifically invited; that would be really rude to me. He was like uh, okay? and I was like dude you never come up and get me anyway; sorry!, This is another one that varies greatly depending on culture and region. In some circumstances it may be totally fine to invite yourself to an event where on paper it would seem like a stupid idea. In college, in dorms or group housing situations in the early 1990s, friends were like vampires: Invite them in once and then they werepretty free to come and go, and there would always be that one person who doesnt pay rent but is nonetheless always around. Even if it's occasionally fine, it isn't something anyone should make a habit of doing, or take it for granted as a way to hang out with people. Is something the matter? response from me, so. In university I lived in dorms, and living on campus was sort of an implicit youre always free. THEM: Oh man, well definitely come along next time!. It's a public place. @lizzieonawhim: Ugh, yes. *I am the still, deep, blue water* And some guys think women really like to be cooked for, so he could have good intentions. Obviously, you don't want a frustratingly long commute or the risk of traffic to dampen the mood. I have been very firm that we can invite her friends to our home or to a public place like a park but we cant tell them we are coming to them. I hold the one doing the rejecting responsible for being clear. And as an aside, its not stupid to not think of the landline, at all. Also I need to be able to say not now and they leave without getting upset or making me repeat myself. My son and T still play with each other every day. And I put it on my calendar, right? We werent students for whom casual unstructured socializing is often more the norm. For example if Bob Alice Camille Davy et al all know that Bob and Gerry are going on their honeymoon starting on Friday, I will feel fine talking about the picnic on Saturday. My life doesnt accommodate drop-ins, and if any of my friends did that, Id ask them not to. The big takeaway from this post is that a lot of preferences are situational and individual. But if not, let it slide. Yes to this Meanwhile I prefer for casual-visit to mean lets go out to the coffee shop, even though that really strains my budget, because I both have executive function issues that affect my house and experience a lot of shame over those issues. and my shame level is much much higher and so I never have people over without a sometimes-tearful marathon clean that leaves me too exhausted to enjoy it. For instance, from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m., you won't discuss chores around the house or the kids (unless it's an emergency) because it pulls you and everyone in the house out of work mode into house . AUGH the theres always a but makes me so RAGEY. Often, when a guy invites you over, it could be because he is wanting to take the relationship to the next level and make a move. Im just careful to make sure that no one is going to see it as passive aggressive middle school behavior. When you show up to events with him, is he the only SO there? Something that we have found interesting in many of these cases is that women generally tend to play dumber for guys. But if its someone Im not intimate enough with to say that to, then sufficient advance notice is required so I can say nope, I was about to take a nap check with me in an hour if you are still around. At the same time, I get really antsy about people coming over to drop by even when I do have a good couple of hours of notice. I have close friends who are cool with people texting them and saying hey Im around are you at home to guests and then coming over if the answer is yes. If its an emergency situation or a hey I remembered that I borrowed this from you or that you wanted to borrow this so I thought Id drop it off and then get back on my way Im ok with it. But at this point (now that Im more confident with myself, which was the hardest thing) I dont feel obligated to invite All Members Of The Group but I also dont feel like I have to shepherd anyones feelings. 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